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Schools in Bengal

Postby donyi_polo » 08 Sep 2012, 12:26

Attention is drawn to the following queries regarding schools in WB:

(1) What are the differences among govt. schools, aided schools and sponsored schools in WB?
(2) Who is in more advantageous position in existing system - whether a teacher in govt. secondary school or a teacher in aided/sponsored secondary school?
(3) Whether the teachers of aided/sponsored schools will happily accept the govt. proposal for conversion of the these schools into govt. schools, if such situation emerges in future!
(4) It is a common hearsay that the state govt. can't disburse DA to its employees in proper time and trails many states in this regard because of it's liabilities to huge amount of expenses for teachers working in aided/ sponsored schools. Is it true!
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby mihiracharya » 08 Sep 2012, 20:32

1) a)The govt. schools runs directly by the state govt. of W.B. All employees enjoy the facilities like the employees of state govt.The examination conducted by the P.S.C.
b)The aided school runs with the salary deficit scheme.They did not enjoy earned leave,yearly tour allowance,flat allotment, transfer etc.The examination conducted by the WBSSC.
c) The sponsored school only allow to send their students to take their examination following the syllabus and curriculum.
2) Of course the employees of govt.school.
3) No, it is impossible.A teacher may appoint by fresh examination conduct by PSC,W.B.
4) Problem the arrangement of money in time.
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby digitaldoc » 09 Sep 2012, 00:24

mihiracharya wrote:1)
b)The aided school runs with the salary deficit scheme.They did not enjoy earned leave,yearly tour allowance,flat allotment, transfer etc.The examination conducted by the WBSSC.

Yearly tour allowance..... May i know what is it?
As far as my knowledge goes WB govt employees get Leave Travel Allowance once in service life.
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby donyi_polo » 09 Sep 2012, 09:18

mihiracharya wrote:c) The sponsored school only allow to send their students to take their examination following the syllabus and curriculum.
2) Of course the employees of govt.school.

C) Not clear to me. As far as I know the teachers of sponsored schools also get salary, pension, gratuity etc. from the grants-in-aid of the revenues of the state govt., similar to those of the aided school teachers.
2) But, what about the advantage of gaining political portfolios through elections right from Panchayat level to the Parliamentary level! Is such advantage available to non-govt. tecahers comparable with petty gains from EL/ tour alowance, flat allotment etc.which are provided to govt. teachers! Moreover, govt. teachers are liable to be trasferred on regular basis at the cost of family life!

Again, what is yearly tour allowance available to govt. teachers!
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby bithi_dutta » 12 Sep 2012, 19:48

Both aided and sponsored schools get govt. fund for their maintenance and/or infrastructural development and, disbursement of pay & allowances of teaching and non-teaching staffs. ROPA rules cover both aided and sponsored schools.
Basic difference is that sponsored schools received fund from the govt. for foundation and construction of school building as well as for development of initial infrastructure in sometime past. Such aids were never there for aided schools which was constructed and developed exclusively under financial assistance of any individual/ pvt. company/trustee etc.
Moreover, there is at least one govt. nominee in the MCs of the sponsored schools. This is not the case with aided schools.

I agree the teachers of non-govt. educational institutions enjoy liberty for filing nominations in political contests/elections and gain power if elected by the public. But they are very few in number compared to whole teacher community. They are not liable to be transferred. In that sense the teachers and non-teaching staffs are in advantageous positions though they have no EL, CCL (at present) etc. They are at par with govt. teachers in respect of pay & allowances, gratuity, pensionary benefits etc.
LTC is given to govt. teachers once in the service career and, that too, during last two years before superannuation.
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby donyi_polo » 13 Sep 2012, 23:14

Thank you for the clarifications.
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby bithi_dutta » 16 Sep 2012, 19:22

Dear members,
I have seen some newspaper reporting on the new education policy of the govt. which can be summarised as follows:

Central Govt. launched Rashtriya Madhyamik Shiksha Abhiyan (RMSA) in March, 2009 with the objectives of universalisation of secondary education of good quality, accessible and affordable to all young persons in the age group 15-16 years. The intention is to increase the gross enrolment rate (GER) from the existing 52% to 75% in secondary education and from 40% to 65% in senior secondary levels by year 2014. The Central Govt. distributes RMSA funds to government schools. These are used for expansion of infrastructure, improvement of classrooms and assisting states in publicity drives for education. The fund-sharing arrangement between the Centre and the States is 75:25. For the North- East States, the ratio is 90:10.
Major targets of RMSA scheme include (a) strengthening of 44,000 existing secondary schools, (b) opening of 11,188 secondary schools, mostly through upgradation of upper primary schools, (c) appointment of 1.79 lakh additional teachers, and (d) construction of 80,500 additional classrooms.
Since the target of the scheme is to expand good quality secondary education by releasing fund to the existing government schools only, it is now facing challenges due to the absence of sufficient government schools in many states. So, the success of the scheme is now dependent on private schools. In our country, 60%t schools which offer class VI-VIII are private. There are only 37% govt. schools which have classes IX and above. States like West Bengal and UP with a low proportion of Government schools in secondary sector are not able get an equitable share of RMSA funds. Therefore, the Ministry of Human resource and Development has decided to alter its RMSA scheme only for WB for the sake of universalisation of secondary education. Instead of funding all government schools which are less than two percent in the state the Ministry will now select and fund non-govt. aided schools in WB. Although state officials are not happy with this decision of the Centre, the Ministry has decided to go ahead with the plan finally.

Now my queries are:
(1) Is the RMSA scheme similar to the Sarva Siksha Abhiyan?
(2) What is the percentage of state govt. schools in WB?
(3) Why are the state officials unhappy with the decision of the Central Govt. who wants to distribute RMSA fund to the aided schools to achieve the goal of the scheme? Otherwise, WB will be far behind compared to other states regarding progress of secondary education due to non-availability of adequate fund from the Centre!
(4) Whether the private schools in WB are also considered by the Centre for getting RMSA fund?
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby b_roy » 16 Sep 2012, 21:56

For many forms school/HT/HM are asked by whom the school is run. The options are like these:a.Local body b. govt of west Bengal etc. What will be the answer for govt, aided primary school which are under DPSC?
...let all be well...
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby donyi_polo » 17 Sep 2012, 23:34

bithi_dutta wrote:.....................
Now my queries are:
(1) Is the RMSA scheme similar to the Sarva Siksha Abhiyan?
(2) What is the percentage of state govt. schools in WB?
(3) Why are the state officials unhappy with the decision of the Central Govt. who wants to distribute RMSA fund to the aided schools to achieve the goal of the scheme? Otherwise, WB will be far behind compared to other states regarding progress of secondary education due to non-availability of adequate fund from the Centre!
(4) Whether the private schools in WB are also considered by the Centre for getting RMSA fund?


Possible answers:
(1)The RMSA works much on the lines of the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan that promotes primary school enrolment rate in India.
(2) There are only 42 state govt. schools in WB. The number is insignificant comapred to aided/sponsored schools. Percentage not known to me.
(3) Probably the state officials are under some obligations of financial rules of the state. But, there should be some way out for proper implementation of the scheme to achieve goal.
(4) Private schools i.e. non-govt. non-aided are not eligible to get RMSA fund. This will only be available to govt. and aided/sponsored schools in WB.
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Re: Schools in Bengal

Postby donyi_polo » 22 Sep 2012, 19:51

(1) What is the prospect of govt. teachers in their service!
(2) Whether there is any provision for service continuation when a teacher of aided/sponsored school resigns and, joins a College as a Lecturer on the basis recommendation of of College Service Commission?
(3) What about his past service if a teacher of govt. school joins a govt. college through PSC and, if he joins an aided college through CSC?
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