Pay Fixation, Salary, Allowances, Loans.
#4194 by bkz
30 Jul 2012, 11:58
Whether the Husband and Wife who are working under the Govt. of West Bengal but in the different department, entitle to get H.R.A more than Rs.6,000/- ??
[[ Please send me the G.O relating to H.R.A for Husband & wife working at a distance of more than 350 K.M under the Govt. of West Bengal. ]]
#4197 by som
30 Jul 2012, 18:55
bkz wrote:Whether the Husband and Wife who are working under the Govt. of West Bengal but in the different department, entitle to get H.R.A more than Rs.6,000/- ?

Not only other departments under Govt. of West Bengal but also if the spouse is an employee under the Government of India, or any State Government or any Government Undertaking or any Statutory or Local Body, Educational Institutions etc., joint amount of H.R.A. should not exceed Rs. 6,000/- per month.
Please have a under linked topic. viewtopic.php?f=47&t=303

bkz wrote: Please send me the G.O relating to H.R.A for Husband & wife working at a distance of more than 350 K.M under the Govt. of West Bengal.

Presently I dont have the G.O. but I shall try to collect it as the earliest.
#4198 by nemo
30 Jul 2012, 19:53
As per G.O. No. 1691-F dated 23.02.2009, Rule 11, the matter of ceiling of HRA drawn by husband & wife is stated.
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#4199 by nemo
30 Jul 2012, 20:06
bkz wrote:Please send me the G.O relating to H.R.A for Husband & wife working at a distance of more than 350 K.M under the Govt. of West Bengal.


If the place of posting of both of them is different places which are too long to cover by daily passenger, H.R.A. may be drawn as usual rate by both of them subject to approval of Finance Department. The case should be routed through the concerned Administrative Department. A prayer may be submitted with the following particulars:

(i) Declaration of HRA duly filled in by the couple duly authenticated by the D.D.O.

(ii) Tax/Rent receipt of houses in which the couple are residing.

(iii) Residential certificate for the couple from Councillor/Panchayat Prodhan.

(iv) The distance between place of posting in respect of the spouse.

(v) Pay slip/Pay certificate issued by competent authority of the couple.
#4201 by nemo
30 Jul 2012, 20:12
There is no G.O. regarding the matter. However the above procedure is suggested by "Handbook for use of Drawing & Disbursing Officers" published by the Directorate of Treasuries & Accounts in concurrence of Finance Deptt. U.O. No. 931 dated 06.08.1985.
#4852 by 10moy
02 Sep 2012, 08:21
In this regards Rule 11 of ROPA Rule 2009 may be quoted: -

House Rent Allowance – With effect from the 1st April, 2009, the house rent allowance admissible to a Government employee shall be 15% of his revised basic pay, i.e., aggregate of the Band Pay plus Grade Pay and NPA, if any, in the revised Pay Structure subject to a maximum of Rs. 6,000/- per month. The ceiling of house rent
allowance drawn by husband and wife together shall also be raised to Rs. 6,000/- per month.

The existing terms and conditions of drawal of house rent allowance by Government employees living in their own house or in a rented house shall continue to apply.

Subject to continuance of the existing terms and conditions regulating drawal of house rent allowance by Government employees provided with accommodation owned / hired by the Government and recovery of licence fee from them, the following conditions West Bengal Services (Revision of Pay and Allowance) Rules, 2009 31 shall be there with effect from 1st April, 2009 in respect of such category of employees:-

(i) When a Government accommodation being in a habitable condition in all respect with appropriate supply of water, power and toilet arrangements for individual families and such a Government accommodation is earmarked for holder of a particular post, the holder will not be entitled to
house rent allowance for living elsewhere.

(ii) Group D employees, when they occupy an accommodation provided by the Government (i.e., the accommodations are earmarked) and according
to their entitlement, will be exempted from payment of licence fee.

(iii) Group D employees, who are required to occupy below standard or below entitlement accommodations, but when such accommodations are not
earmarked for them, will also be exempted from payment of licence fee.


In this context Honorable Calcutta High Court pass as order in a case, which is as follows: -

Order to revise house rent rule

A husband and a wife who are government employees are both entitled to house rent allowance if one of them is posted a “reasonable distance” away from the other, Calcutta High Court has said.

The government now offers the allowance to either the husband or the wife if the distance between their workplaces is less than 250km.

But the court today ask- ed the government to redraw the house rent allowance policy using a “reasonable dis- tance” instead of 250km as the cut-off.

The matter came up during the hearing of a case moved by a Murshidabad teacher whose husband works for the railways in Calcutta.

Since Shukla Das’s hus-band stays 225km from her school in Kandi, she is not entitled to her house rent allowance, according to the rule that came into effect following a circular issued in October 2007. “She stays in a rented house at Purandarpur but she doesn’t get any rent allowance as her husband is already getting it,” said her lawyer Kaushik Chanda.

Das welcomed the order. “I had repeatedly told the authorities that I deserved the allowance but nothing happened. So, I moved court earlier this month.”

Opposing the petition, government lawyer Kamalesh Jha had said: “Fixing the house rent allowance for government employees is an administrative decision and the court should not interfere in the matter.”

However, Justice Biswanath Somadder said: “As the transport system and infrastructure in our country are not so developed that an employee can travel 450km a day to attend his/her place of work and return home, the government should fix a reasonable distance from home to the workplace if it wants to give house rent to only one of them.”

Before the 2007 circular, all state government employees were entitled to house rent allowance.

“When the government realised that working couples were drawing double house rent but sharing the same accommodation, it adopted the existing policy. But the 250km norm was impractical,” said Chanda.


Source: Telegraph India

I can share my personal experience too: -
[color=indigo]My wife - a nursing staff joined her service at Purulia, whereas I was posted at Tollygunge - both of us enjoying House Rent Allowance which was below the permissible higher limit of HRA. After she transferred from Purulia to Dr B N Bose S/D Hospital and started availing Government Quarter in exchange of her HRA. Since the date of her acquisition of the Government quarter, through a declaration. I also have to surrender my HRA too.

After 2/3 months I have applied to my authority to allot me Government quarter at Tollygunge and the same has been allotted to me very soon.

Finally we decided to stay in a rented house as we are loosing a lump-some portion of our salary and both of us surrendered both of our Government Accommodation from a particular date.

Sine then both of us enjoying HRA subject to maximum limit.
#4941 by donyi_polo
05 Sep 2012, 23:08
Friends,
As reported in the Telegraph on the 23rd July,2011 the state govt. has taken the decision to shorten the distance between the workplaces of husband & wife to 150km from 250km to allow grant of HRA to both of them if they reside in rented private accommodations.
State Govt. Decision on HRA.pdf

Try to get the G.O., if issued by now.
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#4947 by 10moy
06 Sep 2012, 09:34
Dr Majumdar and friends of this community,
    I am uploading the original order passed by Mr Justice Biswanath Somadder, in connection with the W.P. No. 17501(W) OF 2009

    Shrimati Sukla Das (Saha)
    Versus
    The State of West Bengal and Ors


    and the contempt no CPAN 527 OF 2011 in W.P.17501(W) OF 2009

    Shrimati Sukla Das (Saha)
    Versus
    Bikram Sen


    The orders are available by the courtesy of Calcutta High Court Website http://www.calcuttahighcourt.nic.in/

But I like to inform you that it's my hard-luck to find the relating Government Order passed by the State.

Again some questions are arises in my mind that, if Government has passed the order, whether that order is applicable to the petitioner only or for all the employees under the Education department. What about the employees of other department?

It is also not clear for me whether the limit of HRA of Rs. 6000/- per month for the govt servant couple revoked by this order or not?
#4958 by nemo
06 Sep 2012, 23:24
@ 10moy: Please upload the mentioned G.O. here.
Sorry, I could not find the same from Calcutta High Court Website. Thanks.
#4961 by donyi_polo
06 Sep 2012, 23:45
Dear Tanmoy,
I don't think that the govt. shall issue a G.O. extending the relief to a particular section of its employees. It's not justified. Rather, it will benefit all.
Secondly, the issue contended before the court is the eligibility for HRA which was limited by the distance bar. Now the gap of 250km has been reduced to 150km. As far as the ceiling (6000/-) is concerned, there is no possibility of its enhancement as it has already been accepted & implemented by the state govt. on the recommendation of the Pay Commission. The issue of ceiling was not addressed by the applicant.
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